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	<title>Comments on: Part 7 - How would you know if a &#8217;speed&#8217; training program is really a strength and endurance program in disguise?</title>
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	<description>by Dr. Larry Van Such</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/lessons-in-speed-training/strength-and-endurance-program-in-disguise.html#comment-4153</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamall, Dr. Van Such has supplied the following answer to your question:

Good question.  The lower you are to the ground, as at the start of a sprint or in a three point stance, as a running back, there little to no momentum to take advantage of. 

Your leg muscles are also at their weakest position since the joints (hips, knees, ankles) will be at the beginning (or end) of their range of motion, depending on which muscle groups you are focusing on. 

Either way, strength is all you have to work with at this point.  This is where weight training has the best advantage to help, since you are training your body to overcome weight/gravity. 

Once you are moving, in as little as one or two steps, momentum is created that becomes easier to take advantage of as you build speed. Also, your joints start to move away from their initial (or ending) position and this will enable your body to generate more leverage. 

With regards to changing directions, unless your change is 180 degrees in the opposite direction, you will be able to take advantage of any momentum you have created.  Also, you will probably be in a more upright position, and this enables other muscle groups to come into play to help improve your speed.

Our &lt;a href="http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=82" rel="nofollow"&gt;speed training program &lt;/a&gt;will help at the beginning of a sprint or run, but it is most effective when the body is more upright and has generated a little momentum to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamall, Dr. Van Such has supplied the following answer to your question:</p>
<p>Good question.  The lower you are to the ground, as at the start of a sprint or in a three point stance, as a running back, there little to no momentum to take advantage of. </p>
<p>Your leg muscles are also at their weakest position since the joints (hips, knees, ankles) will be at the beginning (or end) of their range of motion, depending on which muscle groups you are focusing on. </p>
<p>Either way, strength is all you have to work with at this point.  This is where weight training has the best advantage to help, since you are training your body to overcome weight/gravity. </p>
<p>Once you are moving, in as little as one or two steps, momentum is created that becomes easier to take advantage of as you build speed. Also, your joints start to move away from their initial (or ending) position and this will enable your body to generate more leverage. </p>
<p>With regards to changing directions, unless your change is 180 degrees in the opposite direction, you will be able to take advantage of any momentum you have created.  Also, you will probably be in a more upright position, and this enables other muscle groups to come into play to help improve your speed.</p>
<p>Our <a href="http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=82" rel="nofollow">speed training program </a>will help at the beginning of a sprint or run, but it is most effective when the body is more upright and has generated a little momentum to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamaal Richardson</title>
		<link>http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/lessons-in-speed-training/strength-and-endurance-program-in-disguise.html#comment-4152</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamaal Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dr. Van Such,

I have a question regarding the difference between "speed" and "power." Does your training method also affect the initial power application at the beginning of a max effort run? For instance, I am a running back and I'm interested in reducing the time it takes me to accelerate to top speed after a change of direction. I figured that a good way to improve my initial power output was to run weighted sprints, but reading over your studies I guess I'm wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dr. Van Such,</p>
<p>I have a question regarding the difference between &#8220;speed&#8221; and &#8220;power.&#8221; Does your training method also affect the initial power application at the beginning of a max effort run? For instance, I am a running back and I&#8217;m interested in reducing the time it takes me to accelerate to top speed after a change of direction. I figured that a good way to improve my initial power output was to run weighted sprints, but reading over your studies I guess I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Van Such</title>
		<link>http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/lessons-in-speed-training/strength-and-endurance-program-in-disguise.html#comment-4105</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Van Such</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jody, read the article on this page:

http://athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=91

It will give you some tips on how to continue with your strength training and include your speed training as well. As far as which stance your in, you can best decide that depending on what you anticipate will happen in the play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jody, read the article on this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=91" rel="nofollow">http://athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=91</a></p>
<p>It will give you some tips on how to continue with your strength training and include your speed training as well. As far as which stance your in, you can best decide that depending on what you anticipate will happen in the play.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody Mendenhal</title>
		<link>http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/lessons-in-speed-training/strength-and-endurance-program-in-disguise.html#comment-4104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody Mendenhal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey man,Question.I am a Linebacker and I want to run a sub 4.5.I need my power in my legs to drive that TB back as wellas push those blocker out of my way.I need my lower body power. I would not be able to sleep at night not including various squats and presses.What do you suggest? Another thing.I tried your one suggestion" How to run a faster 40".Exellent improvement in the 40.Now,when I get ready to take of from the start,should I be in a 3 or 4 point stance for my blastoff from my set position? Thanks for the info!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man,Question.I am a Linebacker and I want to run a sub 4.5.I need my power in my legs to drive that TB back as wellas push those blocker out of my way.I need my lower body power. I would not be able to sleep at night not including various squats and presses.What do you suggest? Another thing.I tried your one suggestion&#8221; How to run a faster 40&#8243;.Exellent improvement in the 40.Now,when I get ready to take of from the start,should I be in a 3 or 4 point stance for my blastoff from my set position? Thanks for the info!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, That's a fair question. I've put an answer at this link:

http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/speed-vs-strength/does-weight-training-have-a-place-when-training-athletes-for-speed.html

In addition, the idea that the "greater the force production into the ground the faster one would be" is widely disputed. It may appear to make sense at first, but on closer examination it begins to not make sense. Here are some conclusions from Harvard research study about the limits of running speed:


"What limits top speed, then, is the minimum time you take to swing your leg into position for the next step," ....

"These results support the conclusion that running involves little active muscle power. Much of the work of running is done through passive mechanical processes, in which tendons and muscles act through elastic rebound, much like springs uncoiling," Sternlight comments. "The uncoiling delivers the power to swing your legs."

These comments support the idea that running speed is more a factor of the speed of your forward moving leg and not the strength of your backward moving leg. Which means that your thigh flexor muscle would be the primary muscle group involved in &lt;a href="http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=85" target=_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;sprinting faster&lt;/a&gt;. (http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=85)

You can read an article about this study here: http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.30/StudentSolvesMy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, That&#8217;s a fair question. I&#8217;ve put an answer at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/speed-vs-strength/does-weight-training-have-a-place-when-training-athletes-for-speed.html" rel="nofollow">http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/speed-vs-strength/does-weight-training-have-a-place-when-training-athletes-for-speed.html</a></p>
<p>In addition, the idea that the &#8220;greater the force production into the ground the faster one would be&#8221; is widely disputed. It may appear to make sense at first, but on closer examination it begins to not make sense. Here are some conclusions from Harvard research study about the limits of running speed:</p>
<p>&#8220;What limits top speed, then, is the minimum time you take to swing your leg into position for the next step,&#8221; &#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;These results support the conclusion that running involves little active muscle power. Much of the work of running is done through passive mechanical processes, in which tendons and muscles act through elastic rebound, much like springs uncoiling,&#8221; Sternlight comments. &#8220;The uncoiling delivers the power to swing your legs.&#8221;</p>
<p>These comments support the idea that running speed is more a factor of the speed of your forward moving leg and not the strength of your backward moving leg. Which means that your thigh flexor muscle would be the primary muscle group involved in <a href="http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=85" target=_blank" rel="nofollow">sprinting faster</a>. (http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=85)</p>
<p>You can read an article about this study here: <a href="http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.30/StudentSolvesMy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/1998/04.30/StudentSolvesMy.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you feel that a weight trainning aka (strength and endurance program) has no place when trainning athletes for speed. It just goes against alot of information that states the greater the force production into the ground  meaning strength the faster one would be . I guess I am a little confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you feel that a weight trainning aka (strength and endurance program) has no place when trainning athletes for speed. It just goes against alot of information that states the greater the force production into the ground  meaning strength the faster one would be . I guess I am a little confused.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://speedtrainingsecrets.com/blog/lessons-in-speed-training/strength-and-endurance-program-in-disguise.html#comment-1325</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, You can find some suggestions on the link below to help incorporate your speed training into your existing strength training program.

http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=91

If you have any further questions - just send them to support@athleticquickness.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, You can find some suggestions on the link below to help incorporate your speed training into your existing strength training program.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=91" rel="nofollow">http://www.athleticquickness.com/page.asp?page_id=91</a></p>
<p>If you have any further questions - just send them to <a href="mailto:support@athleticquickness.com">support@athleticquickness.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Derek Mathieson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Mathieson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play soccer and am 37 with a reasonable level of fitness, I need to do my strength training to run longer, when should I do my speed training before or after or on a separate day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play soccer and am 37 with a reasonable level of fitness, I need to do my strength training to run longer, when should I do my speed training before or after or on a separate day?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am interested in improving the speed of my son.  He is 9 and only 65 pounds.  I think it may be as much technique as muscle performance.  Can this program help a young boy and does it help with technique and running style (he appears too flat footed and running on heels instead of toes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am interested in improving the speed of my son.  He is 9 and only 65 pounds.  I think it may be as much technique as muscle performance.  Can this program help a young boy and does it help with technique and running style (he appears too flat footed and running on heels instead of toes).</p>
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